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Deadppol venom crossover book 20168/10/2023 Of course, who is to say that this movie will ever actually get made, although for the record I hope Sony pulls itself back from this specific abyss. Moreover, we have seen variations of this "stand-alone spin-off sans connection to the characters we really like" spin-off before, and they have basically never worked. Venom may be well known as a Spidey antagonist, but he is not terribly popular as a stand-alone character among general audiences. But this was a bad idea back in 2014 and it remains a bad idea today. I don't mean to be this pessimistic this early in the game. Even if you argue that Sony is going for their own R-rated anti-hero comic book franchise in the wake of Deadpool, Venom's popularity is mostly tied into his role as a Spider-Man villain and Venom is a much darker, grittier, and "less fun" character than Wade Wilson. couldn't yet reboot Superman and/or were in the middle of making Batman Begins, audiences would flock to a stand-alone spin-off based on a secondary character but altered so as to remove any reference to said comic book world. Steel, which was a mostly original story that had little to do with the source material (one of several replacement Supermen that took up the mantle after the Man of Steel perished back in 1993), earned just $1.7m on a $16m budget.īoth were lousy movies and both were rooted in the idea that, since Warner Bros./Time Warner Inc. Catwoman was a $100 million disaster that earned just $82m worldwide back in 2004. In terms of spin-offs that are based on a supporting character yet exist in a cinematic world wholly disconnected from that character, well, we've got Halle Berry's Catwoman and Shaquille O'Neal's Steel for evidence on that mini-90's trend. It goes badly.Įven spin-off films that somewhat acknowledged the world in which they were introduced, by Supergirl and Elektra, weren't remotely successful, although in those cases you can partially blame the quality of the final product. This is a matter of introducing well-known characters but in an environment and in a role that will be contradictory to how most perceive said character, and absent any connection to the Spider-Man mythos. And in terms of making a stand-alone film around a character whose popularity is tied into a bigger character in a film that doesn't take place in that same world, we've seen how that goes. This isn't merely a matter of introducing characters who are mostly unknown to the public (think Walt Disney's Guardians of the Galaxy). He's basically a "cool" evil version of Spider-Man. Yes, his comic book persona has evolved a bit, but general audiences still know him as the end result of Eddie Brock getting taken over by a malevolent alien symbiote. Venom as a character is mostly popular to general audiences due to its relationship with Spider-Man. This film won't have any hard connection to Spider-Man, which is frankly the problem. And at the moment, the character is personified by Flash Thompson who works for the government and uses the suit to occasionally not-terrible purposes (it's a little complicated, but it involves the Guardians of the Galaxy and a Spider-Man who is possessed by Dr. Without getting into the whole issue of reboot/don't reboot, I'm to this day astonished that Sony looked at a film that made $890m back in 2007 (in 2D of course) and decided that they had to start over.Īnyway, the film will presumably be intended to kick off a franchise, as all films (including The Oogieloves and the Big Balloon Adventure) are these days. We all know how that turned out, although it should be noted that the (slightly underrated) film still made $890 million worldwide which is still the biggest-grossing Spidey pic. That's sadly why said character was basically forcefully inserted into Spider-Man 3 against the wishes of director Sam Raimi back in 2007. Now to be fair, the Venom character, created in 1988, is one of Spider-Man's most popular villains. So states The Hollywood Reporteras of Friday afternoon, Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach are producing and overseeing the new film while Dante Harper ( Edge of Tomorrow) is allegedly writing the screenplay. But now comes word that Sony is going ahead with a stand-alone Venom movie. With a new version of Spider-Man, played by Tom Holland, set to be introduced to the Marvel Cinematic Universe in this summer's Captain America: Civil War, we all probably thought we had dodged a bullet with the so-called expanded Spidey universe.
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